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AMD (ATI) FirePro (FireGL) V5700 Mid Range
Professional Graphics Card |
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Conclusions and Exclusive Q & A with
Janet Matsuda, Senior Director
Professional Graphics |
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Recently we have come to expect nothing
but the exceptional best out from the
ATI
FirePro camp, today is no less
different. A card that romps home in
such style, precision and costs less
than $600 we all must be sitting up and
taking complete stock of what has been
achieved here. So much - for just so
little. Who would have thought that a
128-bit controller card with DDR3 memory
would outperform its older brother the
V5600. These
two cards fresh out the stable doors
will be now bolting down the streets
like young Stallions.
The standards built into the card are
exceptional value for money and as we
have witnessed here, the Displayport
output at maximum resolution was simply
mind bogglingly clear. The new Dell
27" 2709W Black Widescreen LCD monitor
shown at the full native 1920 X 1200 was
crystal sharp and the imagery as clear
as the blue skies here. Our thanks to
Scan Computers
for getting this magnificent beast here
for the ATI FirePro V5700’s first
outing. We all thought that when DVI
came out this was the upgrade path to
go, along came the shortly to live HDMI
and this was a huge leap forward,
DisplayPort; you have to experience it
to see just how good it really is.
Remember the new V7700 was the first
professional graphics card to fully
support the new DisplayPort Technology
which means
Maximum Resolution
of
2560x1600 in 10-bit color depth DRM
Support.
This also sees a reduction in precious
KWH output and a single cable for audio
and video output. Look closely at the
card pictures shown of the FirePro V5700
as we have deliberately left out one
important piece of information which
will have many of you now wondering,
“What is that for”. For now you will
have to wait and see for our next
outing, though for now and to jog the
monocell that has been very busy
absorbing the data from within;
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Next generation GPU with 320 unified
shader processors
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512MB Memory
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2 DisplayPort and 1 Dual Link
enabled DVI Output
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High Dynamic Range (HDR) rendering
with 8-bit, 10-bit, and 16-bit per
RGB colour component
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Multi-Card Support Drives Up To Four
3D Displays
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Full Blu-ray feature support with
Unified Video Decoder 2.0
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Decode VC-1, H.264 and MPEG-2
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Offload CPU for other tasks
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Dual-stream and picture in picture
(PIP) capabilities
In order to keep things fluent and keep
the hot pace of this exclusive article
today we managed to sneak in a few
questions live with Janet Matsuda who is
Senior Director Professional Graphics
for the ATI FirePro Division. |
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Janet, thank you for taking time with us today and so as not to
hold up the readers to much we have a
few questions that all will be on all
the tips of many tongues today;
3D Professor -
Why are we now seeing such a significant
name change for the FireGL Product
range?
Janet Matsuda -
The ATI FirePro brand signals a change
to the market. The change began last
year with the ATI FireGL products
announced at Siggraph 2007. AMD has
leading performance at every price
point, robust Linux support and advanced
features like DisplayPort and 10-bit
colour. In addition, ATI FirePro
unifies our 3D and 2D multi-view
offering with a single brand for new
professional graphics products from AMD.
3D Professor -
How do you see the way ahead now and for
the forthcoming 6 months with these
exciting new products hitting the major
OEM’s?
Janet Matsuda -
The OEMs are impressed by the
performance and features of ATI FirePro
and we are working with them to
expanding their ATI offering.
3D Professor -
What impact is real-time rendering going
to have within the professional
community.
Janet Matsuda –
Real time rendering will revolutionize
the workflow by allowing designers to
increase the number of iterations and
deliver better designs faster. Today
ATI FirePro delivers leading performance
for high quality rendering.
3D Professor -
Many software applications in the CAD
and DCC are becoming CPU limited rather
than graphics limited. How are VBOs
accelerating application performance.
Janet Matsuda –
Applications must continually be tuned
to take full advantage of the most
recent innovations in graphics hardware.
Vertex buffer objects enable more
efficient use of framebuffer memory and
reduce the instances the GPU is waiting
for the CPU. By using vertex buffer
objects (VBOs) in applications, the
performance can be accelerated up to ten
times.
Janet thank you for explaining these
points which should clear up those all
important questions our viewing audience
today will be pondering over. |
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The buzz
word "VBO" many now will be wondering
how this works, therefore in a
simplistic explanation.
Vertex Buffer Object and
is a way for the graphics card to store
the geometry on the card without having
to push the geometry back down the bus
to the CPU to calculate changes.
It’s important because it increases the
performance of rotations, for example,
by over 5 times with larger models.
No creative designer likes waiting for
their system to update the screen so
this greatly increases their
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It has been one of those events that we
would have wished to have shown more,
but the clock ticked hard and fast
against us as there is a huge demand to
see this excellent new graphics card
from ATI. There is so much it has to
offer. As time really was completely
against us and we only had a short few
days to complete all from fresh. What
is conclusive; is that the base line
tests from
SPECviewperf® 10.0
have returned substantial amounts of
indisputable results for the AMD’s
FirePro (FireGL) V5700 which is
exceptional for a mid range level
professional card.
To complete all of the tests on the
system does take considerable amounts of
time to accomplish. As a point of note
and this is not for the faint hearted;
it can take at least a full 3 – 4 hours
to properly complete a complete “run all
tests” of
SPECviewperf® 10.0
depending on the system and
professional graphic’s card under
test. Taking these facts this into
account, it therefore takes a full 2
days to completely set up each system
and run the benchmarks correctly for
each card. What may seem like a few
simple scores actually takes a full 4
working days to complete properly. We do
rerun the test several times after to
ensure that the first out results
contain no anomalies.
The results that have been shown on this
review are from the benchmarks first run
in accordance with the SPECviewperf®
fair play rules. Not the average of 3
or so runs as some places seem to think
is right.
For those of you who may have slightly
over looked the fact, it has to be also
noted that Skulltrail PCI Express Rail
currently runs at
PCI Express* 1.1 x16 and the X48
Bonetrail’s II PCI Express Rail runs at
PCI Express* 2.0 x16 standard.
These are very important factual points
of note to take away when comparing the
results. With this in mind we have to
look forward to the future of what Intel
is proposing in bringing to the fore,
speculation is in many places running
amok with wild presumptions. Swiftly
covering Intel, we ask about nVIDIA,
rumour has it that the Quadro FX 4800
and FX 5800 are to hit the ground
running very soon supporting at long
last DisplayPort Technology. So at long
last the scuttlebutt rumours can be put
to rest.
The new technology uptake that AMD’s
FirePro team has brought to the fore
with this release, most certainly is the
most comprehensive outing of a new
professional graphic card. Not
so in this instance and we must applaud
AMD’s FireGL team for getting all right
first time around. It is a magnificent
achievement to bring so much out
enhanced high quality technology in one
swift move. Analysts and investors
alike are now extremely pleased at the
aggressive approach in the market share
recovery with these exceptional
products. |
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To reiterate; for those
who skipped out a few pages a brief
summary of the
SPECviewperf® 10.0
results |
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SPECviewperf® 10.0
Tests 1280 X 1024 |
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ATI FirePro (FireGL™)
V5700 & X48 Bonetrail II |
ATI FirePro (FireGL™)
V5700 & Skulltrail |
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Driver Release |
8.4XX.X |
8.4XX.X |
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3dsmax-04 |
49.13 |
50.19 |
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catia-02 |
49.09 |
48.08 |
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ensight-03 |
41.08 |
41.69 |
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maya-02 |
209.84 |
203.47 |
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proe-04 |
50.51 |
42.77 |
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sw-01 |
111.97 |
91.49 |
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tcvis-01 |
35.27 |
28.71 |
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ugux-01 |
43.48 |
43.35 |
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The points gained within SPEC and
independent reviews can mean either
considerable gains or loses at these
mission critical levels. Many, many
important eyes watch results of this
magnitude. Importantly to
gain results of this enormity the
correct hardware has to be carefully
chosen. A good example is the Western
Digital VelociRaptor shown here today.
The FirePro V5700 and VelociRaptor are
an exceptional combination. The
VelociRaptor should be seriously
considered as the hard disc of choice in
any builds that demands blistering
continuous performance.
Availability of the
cards! We can confirm that the AMD
(ATI) FirePro (FireGL) V5700 will be
shipping from distributors into the EU
and UK in September 2008.
Current MRSP (Ex Taxes and VAT) of the
AMD FireGL V5700 – $599 US Dollars, £280
UK Pounds, €335 Euros
Taking into consideration its price
performance point we have to seriously
think about this card when buying a new
system or upgrading. At a MRSP price
point of just $599 US Dollars or £280 UK Pounds , the irrefutable results shown
here today verbalize volumes. You
have to be completely irrational to miss
out on an opportunity of this
magnitude. It does not take a
mathematician or rocket scientist to
formulate out the answer……………………………Let
the price wars begin.
The same old arguments are given what of
support? We now know that AMD have a
some 175 + team dedicated to the FireGL
cards and are delivering out on time hot
fixes and vastly improved updated
drivers all the time. This now should
put paid to any unfounded rumours which
the scuttlebutt may have started and
firmly put to rest those idiotic
claims. In over a year and 6 brand new
amazing products have slam dunked out
the door covering the full remit from
entry level all the way up to the Ultra
High End, 2GB V8650.
To
ever so briefly deviate and to give an
idea on the whole systems performed
overall and once more to recap. |
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3D Studio Max 9 SP2 |
Time to complete |
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CBALLS2 Video Post Render
(Bonetrail II – X48) |
1 Minutes 50 Seconds |
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CBALLS2 Video Post
(Skulltrail) |
1 Minute 03 Seconds |
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Radiosity Render – full 101
Frames (Bonetrail II – X48) |
11 Minutes 32 Second |
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Radiosity Render – full 101
Frames (Skulltrail) |
6 Minutes 27 Seconds |
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Underwater Scene - full 301
Frames – 5 frame pass
(Bonetrail II – X48) |
1 Hour 28 Minutes 30 Seconds |
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Underwater Scene - full 301
Frames – 5 frame pass
(Skulltrail) |
44 Minutes 41 Seconds |
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A few months back we were all completely
astonished at the 30 minute barrier
being broken. How long before we see
the 5 minute barrier being smashed in
Radiosity? Time will tell very
soon.
On a further important note which you
the reader must take fully into
consideration.
The FirePro (FireGL) V5700 shown here
today is an early shipping sample and
there is a slight change to the cooling
array shown today. The drivers used
should be WHQL within the next week and
should see improvements on what
has been incredibly shown here today.
The titanium red gauntlet which was
thrown down from AMD’s FirePro Team to
nVIDIA has yet to be picked up they are
still well behind! Major film studios,
high-end architects, Gas & Oil
Community, Medical & Ultra High-end
Imaging Studios/ Life Sciences /
Acquisition Modalities all alike have
the raw power now from just the 1 card
to achieve more than their wildest
dreams without spending an absolute
fortune on something else. These
specialist cards are not the standard
cash cows for both AMD and NVIDIA and
rely upon the major specialist organisations to pick up on these
articles like these very quickly.
Once more with the results shown they
have to seriously consider what has been
shown today.
What of the future, well time will tell
what is to come next, though whatever
comes from the FirePro camp next is most
definitely to be something more
spectacular than has been shown today.
Just now you have to sit back in awe at
what the FirePro V5700 has to offer.
The year’s fiscal turn is gone and many
will be out there with much cash to burn
in those deep pockets. But take stock
of what has been shown today and you can
save for something possibly bigger and
better. The crystal ball just now is a
tad fuzzy. Though with what has been
shown today, the conclusions one must be
thinking are very decisive; one cannot
escape from hard factual unequivocal
evidence that has been displayed.
It remains so that the
precious
diamond studded golden crown
in the professional graphic card arena
remains firmly in the clutch of ATI’S
FirePro titanium fist.
The ATI FirePro Team firmly maintain
their current status of being the
Governing Power in the Workstation place.
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www.3dprofessor.org award for
the AMD’s FirePro (FireGL) V5700 Mid
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EDITORS CHOICE |
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Page 1 - Introduction
Page 2 - Introduction Continued
Page 3 - Pictures of the ATI FirePro
(FireGL) V5700
Page 4 - System Configurations and
Software Tests
Page 5 -
3DS Max 9 SP2 Scenes
Page 6 - PC Mark 2005 & MAXON Cinebench
10
Page 7 - SPECapc for SolidWorks 2007™
Page 8 -
SPECviewperf® 10.0
Page 9 - Conclusions and Exclusive Q & A
with Janet Matsuda, Senior Director
Professional Graphics |